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The deal |
Secret talks between General Pervez Musharraf and former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto have entered the final phase.
According to sources privy to President House, and the PPP Chairperson, Benazir Bhutto, talks are almost “ successful”, However there are only two minor hitches. First Benazir Bhutto wants General Musharraf o shed his uniform before the presidential elections, while
General Musharraf wants to do that after getting re-elected. Second Benazir demands the withdrawal of all the corruption cases against her immediately and unconditionally, while the government is reluctant to do that”, the source said.
The deal revolves around four major points.
First, Musharraf will lay off his military uniform and get elected as a civilian president by the current assemblies with the help of ruling PML (Q), and the PPP. Second, all the corruption cases against Benazir Bhutto will be withdrawn, third, the general elections
will be held under a neutral caretaker government, and fourth, the current local bodies government will be dissolved before the elections.
“ The two sides have almost agreed on the four points, however there is still difference of opinion on the implementation”, a source said.
“ General Musharraf is not ready yet to withdraw the corruption cases against Benazir immediately. He has proposed to her to return, participate in the elections, and in the meantime the government will gradually withdraw the cases against her”, he maintained.
According to power sharing formula, the source claims, an amendment will be made in the constitution paving the way for Ms Bhutto to become the prime minister for the third time.
After elections, the PPP will make governments in center, and Sindh province, while PML(Q) will make governments in Punjab and Balochistan provinces, whereas whoever gets majority in north west frontier province, it will be given the chance to form government there.
On the other hand, the ruling PML(Q) and PPP leaders appear to be stunned over the secret talks as General Musharraf and Ms Bhutto did not take them into confidence about the deal.
Here are some questions
1) What’s your opinion about deal? Will it work?
2) Will Benazir be able to tackle the simmering crises in the country?
3) Is America pressurizing Musharraf and Benazir for deal? If yes why?
4) Where will Benazir and Musharraf morally stand after deal as they have hurled serious allegations ranging from corruption to violation of constitution against each other.
5) Balochistan and the NWFP the provinces are most violence-hit provinces, where the PPP has no say. How will Benazir tackle the situation there? | |
Have Your Say
I 100 % AGREE WITH MR M. WAQAR, THOSE MUSILM MIULTANTS WHO ARE HEL BOUND TO DESTOY THE GOOD NAME OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE COUNTY ITSELF. WHY NOT OSSAM GOES OUT BLOW HIMSELF WITH BOMBS INSTEAD OF USING INNOCENT PEOPLE TO FULL FILL HIS HART DESIRE AND HID HIMSELF IN THE RAT HOLES TO SAVE HIS LIFE AND MISSUSING ISLAM FOR
HIS OWN GOALS. MAY GOD SAVE PAKISTAN FROM THESE VOLVES.
S.D.GILL, Australia
A Shame
Pakistanis are free to say anything. They can say that they are the N-power, their army is able to so anything, but its a national shame for all pakistanis that despite giving the advance threat by the islamist terrorist group, they were all helpless in Karachi. really a shame !
Afratafree, Pakistan
attack on benazir
It was a shameful act of ignorance that Muslim militants,who are hiding in rat holes of pakistan tribal areas attacked a peaceful rally of people who were welcoming their leader BENAZIR BHUTTO.I am against her deal with military janta of pakistan but she is still an icon of paklistani politics like her father.Musharaf regime has been failed in protecting lives of pakistanis against terrorist attacks by osama and his company,after his failure,Musharaff regime must now allow American froces to attack those rat holes of osama in tribal areas of pakistan,Mush regime should also arrest and punish former officials of Pakistan Army who have links with osama,Former ISI guy HAMID GUL must be hand over to America for his involement and links with osama.
m waqar, United States of America
A deal of joke
I go along with the opinion of Maj.N.Krishnan, India who very honestly stated his words that Gen. Musharraf has done a great job for Pakistan. Today its a different Pakistan and economy is growng above 7% which is a remarkable achievement. He got a good team and especially PM Mr. Aziz is working hard to make sure that Pakistan becomes an economic tiger of Asia. With the human capital and natural resources, team is working fine. There are people with different opinions and they do have a right to say whatever they think but overall sitution of Pakistan is great. Gen. Musharraf is not only a military man but a very polished politician who cornered PPP especially BB by having a meeting with her. Gen Musharraf got a majority behind him and his re-election is sure for next five years. By the end of next five years Pakistan would achieve lot in economic field and basics to common man will be met better. Good luck all well wishers for Pakistan.
mohammad, United Kingdom
Musharef and the BB
As an Indian(I nam happy I am not seeing any Indian bashing in your press now a days)we want Pakistan to be close to us and a stable country.If Musharef belongs to Delhi my ancestors are from Peshawar.We share one character in common ,to see every thing in the negative way.The way Gen.Mushareff has brought out this nation from the brink of bankruptcy will even beat a trapeze artist.Why think of the discredited politicians like BB and Nawaz.Why can't you bring out a leader of character.Kashmir and other problems with India were nurtured by the Military and the Mullahs for their own benefit.People should forget about these divisive problems and leave the matter as it is.In their foolish quest for Kashmir,the country may lose Sindh and Baluchistan.No Government in India worth its salt can take a decision to surrender J&K State to Pakistan.
Jaskaran S Nalwa, India
Circus & Clowns
Quite so often, lower ranking official of U.S.administration
is visiting Pakistan.BB is knocking at the doors of U.S officials.May 12 carnage in Karachi is a past history.Gen.
President wants to hang on to power. Millions of dollars, US is giving him every month to fight Talibans, are never audited.The country is on selling block. I had heard about Banana republic, now I can see it.General keeps on talking about rule of law, making new deals with thuggish party MQM and Mullah Fazal Haq.BB will sacrify every princple of integrety as long as she has hope to share power.Then ther is Nawaz Sharif who accepted exile over imprisonment. Look around, it is a circus being run by clowns.
Alamsher Wazir, United States of America
BB AUR BA BA
BB AUR BA BA RAAZI
TO KIYA KAREGA QAZI
(QAZI - I MEAN EVERY SINGLE PAKISTANI)
OAH, Saudi Arabia
Agent Rulers..
What happens when leaders sell their dignity, honor and the land their ancestors built and bled for? What happens to thinkers and writers when they think without their conscience?
Arab leaders and the majority of the upper class, even though this class represents less than 10% of any respective population of any country in the Middle East, including 99.9% of recognized writers, journalists and thinkers are all clinically living alright; spiritually they are dead as a rock. Repeated reaction similar to recent events in The Middle East by this small and wealthy percentage of the population have betrayed the Region for the least several hundred years since the fall of the Ottoman Empire. Of course, the West recognized the weakness and vulnerability of this small group and applied on them every conceivable black mail invented since the beginning of the human existence. Black mail tactics, soon became a school of thought for this small group. Eventually they became Western bodies, scattered all over the Middle East.
300-million Arabs are so intrigued with the Western culture they have little regard to the cradle that housed them when they were babies. For them naked bodies, free sex and Hollywood are the fashions they prefer to run after and do not bother with Islamic rules and laws. What is pathetic about this hysteria is most Americans are actually disgusted with what America turned into. This tells us Arabs are not in love with American culture in a true sense, but are afraid to make a full commitment to Islam.
History will one day register true facts about Islam and Arabs. Arabs will continue to fall behind; Islam, on the other hand, will be embraced by Westerners and North Americans in numbers beyond anyone’s wildest dreams. This brings us back to the famous argument. Islam is not an Arabic religion; it is a religion for all mankind, very much like Christianity. The Holy Qur’an was sent to mankind in Arabic not as an indication Islam was an Arabic religion. Arabia at that time had the worse human right abuse on the planet. Naturally, Arabia was God’s choice to steer to the right path first. Arabic is the language of Heaven; it cannot be claimed as the language of Arabs, but the language of all mankind in hereafter life..In Pakistan when you have people with slave mentality god help us.the colonialist left 210 years ago,yet they left a big SMELL of ignorance in sub-continent.omer asim loves america that is what all muslim countries are producing.slave mentality and dollar worship.speak english and wear western suits the muslims feel good about them.omer read koran and lear about life.pakistan zinndabad.
Omer Bin Khaattab., Pakistan
Whats in Store
Well not too selfishly i must state that General musharaf brought real prosperity to pakistan every which way possible in the interest of paksitan.
Yes the deal finally politics has gone interesting so be it.
Its only in pakistan that a corrupt political agenda minded Justice is freed by the superior court and people start following it thanks to the legal fertinity. but no one has ever asked those people who actully felt the heat of the CJ when he abused power and is still willfully defaming his own profession by revoking his earlier decisions.
When the CJ of the country can act as a political catalst
Why cant the president do it deal or no deal the future economic prosperity that the general brought will be up for grabs in the next elections if the president remains then we have a chance to some how pull strings and survive otherwise we in pakistan know what democracy created pakistan in to.
Atleast give the general a hi five he brought us back from a on the verge to be declared terrorist,defunct and failed state to a progressive looking state and by doing that also he saved many of the americans living outside being declared terrorists and put up in to gutanamo bay.
Come see for your self if pakistan is back from a poor disregarded corrupt and ethically divided country or it bears the fruits of enlightened Moderation.
Deal or no deal one thing is certain its up to us if we go unstable we loose a much thriving economy and better living standards or just want a retard republic where feudal families and self calimed democrats pilfridge what ever is left.
and for people who dont want america's interference i would advise them to stop using their operating systems as they are also made in america along with their intel processors, would aivse them to first get rid of these and then question americas interference.
Omer Asim , Pakistan
The Peculiar Relationship
Mr.Shamas Tabrezi's comments truly deserve credit.The sacred cow, Israel has everything to gain from American policy in the Middle East.Each presidential candidate is trying to convince Jewish lobby that he/she(Hillary Clinton) is more jewish than the jews.Two scholars, Mearsheimer & Walt are the voices in the wilderness. Strong jewish lobby is already at work to discredit both scholars. Universities are being pressured not to allow these gentlemen to express their views.Freedom of expression is fine as long as it does not critisize jewish interest.
For oridinary American, the six pack Joe, Israel is a Holyland reserved for Jews. He is being told in every sermon on every Sunday by his preacher.Who is going to speak the truth?
Alamsher Wazir, United States of America
The Deal
A coalition of Fascism, corruption, terrorism and neo-imperialism Part-2
Third silly statement she issued to CBC, supporting barbaric action taken by Mush against Lal Masjid and Jamia Hafsa, anchor asked whether you might take same bloody action if you are in power, she said yes! It means she is ready to open all the ways which lead to anarchy, bloodshed and unrest in the society. She already has agenda to divide society on sectarian and ethnic lines. Her statement also reflects barbaric mentality of feudal against common peoples and how those did not care any principals of Human rights. This was the Benazir, in PPP Government who buried his father under hundred thousand tones of RCC, with a state value of 60 crore rupees. She can go to last limits of her honor and dignity to please western media.
Her lip sticking to US media and to fascist dictator at home; reveals how for can she go to limits for achieving so called PM ship. It is her notion that is the only way which can save her from imprisonment, and protect looted money in overseas banks.
This deal is not between two leaders, it is hidden agreement between two mafia heads, fascist, thugs, corrupt gang and terrorists. Based on single point agenda to how to keep continue saving interests of each other. That is why none have any thing to disclose, that what happened in deal, whether it occurred or not. It is surprised on top leadership of PPP, out of them there are great scholars who are mum and except shaking their head up and downward have nothing to say. With great apology it looks that a young daughter has runaway, and parents want to hide whereabouts of lover for the sake of respect. On other side opposition is requesting her not to marry with dictator, how foolish are our politicians.
It is a great dilemma of century that when peoples stood against dictator under leadership of Lawyer movement, Benazir showed her back. She is ready to accept slavishness of intelligence agencies, Sh: Rashid to whom she kept in Jail, Ijaz ul Haq, Ch; Shujaat, all retired faujees and an already built system on the footings of corruption, where will she fit? And what status she might have? It is known to every one.
Clever fox will be thrown on garbage third time. This is psychic of feudal that they can go to least disregard for their cause.
Statement of Benazir and some of the PPP leaders in support of massacre at Jamia Hafsa was shocking; their statements did not reflect sentiments of majority of PPP workers and leaders to whom we know. Supporting a political party is another thing but supporting human rights violations, state terrorism, use of disproportionate force, kidnapping, target killings, abduction of families, aerial attacks on civilians, and all barbaric actions which are being committed by fascist regime, to condemn all such actions PPP workers supported Lawyers movement along with other fellow citizens. And sentiments of common PPP workers are not hidden.
internationalprofessor, Pakistan
The Deal
A coalition of Fascism, corruption, terrorism and neo-imperialism Part-1
We presented some of our view point under the heading of “Mother of all Deals”, Pak Tribune, which can be seen at http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?185728.
It is recognized that why Benazir is under so much serious pain that she has lost her senses. There is no doubt that she is flowing money with both hands for self projection. Main reason of her activities revolves around corruption cases against her and husband. Including murder cases like Murtaza Bhutto and Balouch.
She is taking turns every day to justify her faithfulness to US administration. She is unaware of the fact that what impact it will have on the local peoples. Her few statements reflects how greedy she is, and showing herself as clever fox. But now a lot of water has passed through bridges, her over cleverness could be counted on finger tips, her mesh has holes and fish know how to pass through broken mesh.
First of all it is decided that her group is most dishonest creed of the nation, what ever she and her husband did we have already presented in “Mother of all deals”, but another example of Gen: Babar is worth quoting, he picked monuments of Afghan Culture and heritage from different areas worth billions, which he never returned. Only one statue which as he claim to purchased for US$100,000 was later shifted to surrey palace. Unfortunately all the cases of corruption of Jialas are on record and they can’t deny their involvement. UN heritage foundation has records of all looted heritage from Afghan museums.
Leaving other statements which every Pakistani knows, she announced for “Orange revolution”. PPP intellectuals and scholars have ever been talking about leftist revolution, Mao Zedong, Deng Xiaoping, Kim il Sung, Salvador Allende, Ernesto Che Guevara were their role model, I have seen a lot of communist literature in bookshelves of PPP leaders highlighting socialist revolution. , so Kori Akino was projected. Later when Benazir came in to power she called for “new social contract”, When Benazir was kicked out second time from office, and then “Aung San Suu Kyi” of Burma was given resemblance of her activities against Generals.
Leaving general thoughts of ordinary PPP worker, now newly floated doctrine of “Orangr Revolution” reflects that PPP has taken u-turn from its basic philosophies. Orange revolution is a kick on the grave of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, hypocrisy toward Burtrend Russel and Ahmed Soakarno. It is also admonitory for Najir Naji, Munoo Bhai, Prof. Mahdi Hasan, Prof. Mubarik Ali, Faiz Ahmad Faiz, and all such intellectuals, poets and human rights workers who passed their life for the socialist cause. It is for the information that Orange revolution has failed.
Second silly statement of Benazir is against Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, we can sacrifice one thousand Benazir and Mush only on the name of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan. She used her bad mouth to tease sentiments of general public. This is feudal mentality to pose herself supernatural and treating PPP workers as her personal slaves. She has no authority to take name of Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, sleeping with dirty dogs at New York now talking about those peoples who live in hearts of patriotic Pakistanis. If no body is above the law then why you are trying to create deals for short cut, go to courts instead of lick spitting a fascist dictator.
internationalprofessor, Pakistan
Disaster
We have nothing to do with BB or BaBa but what is in front of us is that the country and the nation in it seems to be drawn towards some disaster. May not come the days like those of 1971.
Mohammad Ilyas, Pakistan
Personal interest
Both these leaders(Mush and Benazir) have nothing to do with the national interests of pakistan. They are more interested in the personalgains and nation should dislodge them by supporting the Nawaz Sharif led opposition. Nawaz has got popularity due to his principal stand and un-wavering commitment.
Anjum,UK
Anjum, United Kingdom
Enough of This
As a nation where are we going and whom are we following to keep Pakistan alive. Ammendments in the constitution are addressed as child play for the power thirsty people in Pakistani politics. Seems like the all players of this game are playing in a stadium and we all like to watch them over on our silver screens and beleive that some miracle will happen which will save our beloved country. Does Pakistanis really care who wants to be on the golden throne, NO, because we have enough of our everyday problems to deal with. Why don't the people in power understand the true meaning of this precious God gifted life, yet people who are in power beleive that they are immortal. I request everyone in power to save Pakistan from these evil elements and let us live in peace.
Imran, Canada
BB and the General
It is unfair for US to force a western style democracy in Pakistan.Every nation should get the type of Government the people deserve.India has her chaotic democracy, Pakistan also should have one like that.But Pakistan has to overcome the influence of two evils,the Mullahs and the military.
vavnith, United States of America
Pakistan Politics
Please give Gen.Mushareff credit for saving a nation from financial bankruptcy and the stigma of a terrorist state.Inspite of the cheap vote bank politics,where criminals and dacoits can become ministers and a foreign lady can control the whole government,Indian democracy gives chance to release the pressures with in by giving freedoms to public to carry out Rasta rokos,bandhs, occassional riots and also freedom to throw out the government by a free election.Dictatorships only disadvantage is that it allows the pressure to build up by shackling dissent that then bursts at the seams.It is better to allow a chastened Mushareff to continue rather bthan handing over the reins to looters like BB ansNawaz.After all he is a soldier and he will not sell the nation.
Maj.N.Krishnan, India
The Peculiar Relationship
"No American President can stand up to Israel."
These words came from feisty Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chief of Naval Operations (1967-1970) and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (1970-1974). Moorer was, perhaps, the last independent-minded American military leader.
Admiral Moorer knew what he was talking about. On June 8, 1967, Israel attacked the American intelligence ship, USS Liberty, killing 34 American sailors and wounding 173. The Israelis even strafed the life rafts, machine-gunning the American sailors leaving the stricken ship.Apparently, the USS Liberty had picked up Israeli communications that revealed Israel's responsibility for the Seven Day War. Even today, history books and the majority of Americans blame the conflict on the Arabs.
The United States Navy knew the truth, but the President of the United States took Israel's side against the American military and ordered the United States Navy to shut its mouth. President Lyndon Johnson said it was all just a mistake. Later in life, Admiral Moorer formed a commission and presented the unvarnished truth to Americans..The power of the Israel Lobby over American foreign policy is considerable. In March 2006, two distinguished American scholars, John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, expressed concern in the London Review of Books that the power of the Israel Lobby was bending US foreign policy in directions that serve neither US nor Israeli interests. The two experts were hoping to start a debate that might rescue the US and Israel from unsuccessful policies of coercion that are intensifying Muslim hatred of Israel and America. The Israel lobby was opposed to any such reassessment, and attempted to close it off with epithets: "Jew-baiter," "anti-semitic," and even "anti-American." Today Israeli citizens who oppose Zionist plans for greater Israel are denounced as "anti-Semites."..Many Americans are unaware of the influence of the Israel lobby. Instead they think of the US as "the world's sole superpower," a macho new Roman Empire whose orders are obeyed without question or the insolent nonentity is "bombed back to the stone age." Many Americans are convinced that military coercion serves our interest. They cite Libya, Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq, and now they are ready to bring Iran and Pakistan to heel with bombs.
This arrogance results in the murder of tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of men, women and children, a fate that many Americans seem to believe is appropriate for countries that do not accept US hegemony..Coercion is what American foreign policy has become. Macho superpatriots love it. Many of these superpatriots derive vicarious pleasure from their delusions that America is "kicking those sand niggers' asses."
This is the America of the Bush Regime. If some of these superpatriots had their way every "unpatriotic, terrorist supporter" who dares to criticize the war against "the Islamofacists" would be sent to Gitmo, if not shot on the spot..These Bush supporters have morphed the Republican Party into the Brownshirt Party. They cannot wait to attack Iran, preferably with nuclear weapons. Impatient for Armageddon, some are so full of hubris and self-righteousness that they actually believe that their support for evil means they will be "wafted up to heaven." [see
It has come as a crippling blow to Democrats that "their" political party is comfortable with Bush's America, and will do nothing to stop the Bush regime's aggression against the Iraqi people or to prevent the Bush regime's attack on Iran...Elsewhere on earth and especially among Muslims, the suspicion is rife that the reason the war against Iraq cannot end, and the reason Iran and Syria must be attacked, is that the US must destroy all Muslim opposition to Israel's theft of Palestine, turning an entire people into refugees driven from their homes and from the lands on which they have lived for many centuries. Americans might think that they are merely grabbing control over oil, keeping it out of the hands of terrorists, but that is not the way the rest of the world views the conflict..Instead of re-evaluating a failed policy, Bush's "war tsar," General Douglas Lute, has called for the reinstitution of the draft. Gen. Lute doesn't see why Americans should not be returned to military servitude in order to save the Bush administration the embarrassment of having to correct a mistaken Middle East policy that commits the US to more aggression and to debilitating long-term military conflict in the Middle East..Jimmy Carter was the last American president who stood up to Israel and demanded that US diplomacy be, at least officially if not in practice, even-handed in its approach to Israel and Palestine. Since Carter's presidency, even-handedness has slowly drained from US policy in the Middle East. The neoconservative Bush/Cheney regime has abandoned even the pretense of even-handedness..
Shams Tabreeziii, Pakistan
Musharraf’s Re-Election Dilemma
President Pervez Musharraf's secret rendezvous with former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto in Abu Dhabi has left Pakistan guessing what kind of an alliance is being hatched with elections only months away.
Mr. Musharraf, going through the weakest phase of his eight years in power, wants another term as president. Ms. Bhutto wants to return, after nearly a decade of self-exile, and a third chance to run the country as prime minister. The goal of both leaders is to turn Pakistan into a progressive Muslim nation, but will have to confront conservative religious forces and the indigenous Islamic militant movement which is eating away Pakistan.
Both of these egocentric leaders will have to overcome many obstacles before they can work together as President and Prime Minister. Musharraf will have to convince the governing Pakistan Muslim League-Qaid (PML-Q) to accept a power sharing arrangement with Benazir Bhutto’s Pakistan People’s Party (PPP). This will be a hard sell because at the moment the PML-Q is the largest party in the National Assembly with 126 seats, and 40 seats in the Senate. Furthermore, Musharraf will also have to bring himself to accept a “balance of power between the president and the prime minister” and a division of authority on security matters. To complicate matters further, the possibility remains that the opposition parties under the umbrella of All Parties Democratic Movement may refer President Musharraf’s candidacy to the Supreme Court of Pakistan. In this event Musharraf’s ascendance for a second term presidency will be at risk providing a deal to reinstate Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry is not reached earlier.
Former Prime Minister Bhutto will also face her own challenges. She will have to convince Pakistan People’s Party cadres to support her decision for the greater cause of democratization of Pakistan. It is therefore essential that Musharraf agrees to resign his army position. The problem with this scenario remains that if Musharraf adopts a policy to get himself re-elected in uniform from the present assembly prior to the general elections planned for January 2008, he will risk loosing legitimacy and the support of Bhutto. If however, he waits until after the general elections to get himself re-elected from the new assembly, he will risk disqualification because the constitution bars military officers from standing for public office for a two year period after their retirement or resignation.
Under these circumstances it seems very likely that Musharraf will get himself re-elected from the present assembly and will immediately resign his army post after his election for a second term.
Bhutto may, under this formula, be able to sell her party the Musharraf presidency. But she will have to wait until Musharraf actually resigns from the army before she can convince her party to go along with her plans. In return, to facilitate a third term premiership for Bhutto, Musharraf will have to convince the PML-Q to pass legislation allowing Bhutto to become the next Prime Minister.
Despite these challenges the possibility of a Bhutto-Musharraf partnership with its secular outlook is what Pakistan needs at this juncture to confront the dark forces of Islamic extremist militancy. One must hope that between now and the forthcoming presidential election planned for September-October timeframe, the governing PML-Q and Musharraf avoid mistakes to further weaken the presidency and diminish chances of his re-election.
Cyrus Saify, United States of America
Khilafa versus Democracy
Khilafa not democracy as what brother Salaheen Rumi is propogating is what the muslims prime requirement should be in order to regain its former glory as a formidable force wherein no infidel could dare eyeball a faithfull .
Democracy is a refuge for the monkeys to indulge in monkey-antics and become parliamentarians. As an outcome of democracy , Dacoits like Phoolan Devi in neighboring India, Eunuchs and gays elsewhere , Liars and manipulators everywhere , stripteasors and prostitutes in Italy , actors in America , rapists and murderors get elected , sit in parliament and govern destinies ! This is not Islam . In democracy , Numbers prevails while in Islam one on truth can prevail over one million on falsehood . Not so in democracy . Using numbers , some state governments in America citing democratic rights have permitted same sex - Man to Man and Woman to Woman marriages . Not so in Islam even if you have all the majority numbers on your side . Islam and democracy can never jell together and are as poles apart as the proverbial " Chalk and Cheese ".
The talk of Khilafa is the Talk of Enlightment , is the Talk of Success and is the Talk of a True Momin .
O Allah , grant immense perseverance and ultimate success to all those who strive relentlessly to establish your Word as the only Word of Law . A'amin .
Sadat Khan, Pakistan
Dicktators Leave pakistan alone.
EMERGENCY, martial law, election in uniform, election from these assemblies, no return of Nawaz Sharif, a deal with Benazir on Gen Musharraf’s terms, general elections to suit the general’s convenience: this is the nonsense that Pakistan faces. And all because of one man and his paranoid desire to cling to power, no matter what the consequences. A fine gift to the country on its 60th birthday..On a sinking ship any captain with a semblance of honour and sense of duty is first concerned about the safety of his passengers and crew. He is the last man to leave the ship. In our case this concept of honour has been turned on its head. A helmsman for eight years, not satisfied that he has been around for so long, is concerned only about himself. His ship is sinking but he wants everyone to go down with him....He feels he is riding a tiger and will be devoured if he gets down. This is wrong imagery. We are a forgiving nation. We did nothing to Yayha Khan, who presided over Pakistan’s biggest disgrace. Nothing ever happened to that other military hero, Lt Gen Amir Abdullah Khan ‘Tiger’ Niazi, who surrendered to Jagjit Singh Aurora in Dhaka’s Race Course Ground. The tiger and his riding are only in Musharraf’s imagination..He feels he is riding a tiger and will be devoured if he gets down. This is wrong imagery. We are a forgiving nation. We did nothing to Yayha Khan, who presided over Pakistan’s biggest disgrace. Nothing ever happened to that other military hero, Lt Gen Amir Abdullah Khan ‘Tiger’ Niazi, who surrendered to Jagjit Singh Aurora in Dhaka’s Race Course Ground. The tiger and his riding are only in Musharraf’s imagination..He feels he is riding a tiger and will be devoured if he gets down. This is wrong imagery. We are a forgiving nation. We did nothing to Yayha Khan, who presided over Pakistan’s biggest disgrace. Nothing ever happened to that other military hero, Lt Gen Amir Abdullah Khan ‘Tiger’ Niazi, who surrendered to Jagjit Singh Aurora in Dhaka’s Race Course Ground. The tiger and his riding are only in Musharraf’s imagination...He feels he is riding a tiger and will be devoured if he gets down. This is wrong imagery. We are a forgiving nation. We did nothing to Yayha Khan, who presided over Pakistan’s biggest disgrace. Nothing ever happened to that other military hero, Lt Gen Amir Abdullah Khan ‘Tiger’ Niazi, who surrendered to Jagjit Singh Aurora in Dhaka’s Race Course Ground. The tiger and his riding are only in Musharraf’s imaginationOver the last eight years we have had our ears filled with talk of commando courage. Isn’t it time to honour the code of the commando for once? There is no need to be afraid of the Constitution. There is a right way of doing things and if this road is followed, many of the things that seem threatening may not be that frightening after all. Every military ruler in our history has had to be pushed out. Why not do things differently this time?
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salaudden Rumi, Pakistan
Big Deal Rally of 80000 In Jakarta yesterday
Imagine 80,000 yesterday rallying in Jakarta under Hizb-ut-tahrir(formed in Jerusalem Israel 1953 after 1948 Jewish independence) with Jews dedicated for caliphate creation. Imagine with PLO state in less than 20% land (original) under caliphate without Muslim Common Market without Muslim Currency for oil sales to fit in global development .Imagine terrible massacre of Lud and Khalia wala massacre in Amritsar.
Imagine Pakistan with no border or subdivided into independent Pakistan without Balochistan .Islamic Banking is dedicated under oil sheiks as common denomitor called Caliphate.
World Rich(including none Muslim) are owner of banks or oil distributors under UN
Running Iraq UAE to Brunei and central Asian oil or few places to find missing UN wage money.
Deal is Caliphate as one state under Islamic Banking IMF BB and PM without uniform . Muslim states is under Islamic banking set up as caliphate without present Pakistan
And under Indo USA Nuke deal .Caliphate Regimes with Nawaz Shariff charged for corruption alongwith others in other countries under one IDB banking currency working
Under Euro or USA dollar is deal.
be Zee, United Kingdom
Deal--what a joke
Pakistan will never survive unless the nation stop recycling its corrupted, incompetent, and selfish so "leaders" over and over again. The Pakistani nation has no right to live if it collectively decides to be ruled by such characters. It needs new blood, a new generation of strong charactered Muslims. For example, How can a fugutive, who plundered the nation's wealth to the tune of 72 arab rupees, has massive cases against her in the court, is wanted by the government, goes out every other day and make speeches and statements against the very existence of Pakistan, is literaly a fugutive, --and people still talk about her as a legitimate leader and contemplating the possibility of bringing her back??..Come on people..whats gotten into your heads?
Jamal Hassan, Saudi Arabia
Musharraf & BB deal
It is unfortunate that two corrupt politicians who have no personal inegrity and do not care about the rule of law, made a deal to share power. It is only the people of Pakistn who have the right to make such a decision.
It is sad and tragic that BB has joined hands with the people who have hanged Mr. Bhutto and conspired to kill Murtaza Bhutto. How can she be faithful to Pakistan? Why should people of Pakistan trust her? Is she really that power hungary?
Sharif brothers have done a better job this time but don't count too much on them too. They are also product of Pakistan Army. Most of the cronies of Musharraf were in Sharif's government. We may see them again if he is elected to be the Premier of Pakistan.
Lets hope the struggle and sacrificed the people of Pakistan made will bring a real and true democracy in the country. It is badly needed to eliminate poverty, illetracy and gross voilations of Human Rights in Pakistan.
We want Pakistan, a country of peace with prosperity, where respect for human dignity is the corner stone of democracy.
Pakisatn Zindabad.
Waqas
waqas shaikh, United States of America
Unique Deal
Let us peep into our hearts and ask ourselves a simple question. Is Benazir's present covert dealings with Musharraf and damning without care, already concluded London deal i.e., "Alliance for Democracy" is in her love for democracy? Is she not dumping moral and party principles in her selfish pursuit to rule the country at any cost, even compromising the interests of her (???) motherland.
Now let us ask the stalwarts of her party if they even remember their part's rules of business founded by their late founder Chairman, Z.A.Bhutto? I am inclined to remind them of a few of Bhutto's "golden rules" in politics, which I reproduce below:
He believed that,
1) In our contemporary politics a successful politician is the one, who tells lies with such frequency, consistency and expertise that, not only his subjects but he himself starts believing that those are actually are the truth.
2) Military adventurism in civilian domains, ( he specifically gave example of some African countries) has made the conventional democracy obsolete and has created a new form of governance he called "Coupocracy". He defined it as a system created by repeated Military interventions after short intercessions of spurious civil administrations, "engineered for failures".
3) Manipulating sentiments of masses is one of the best tools in politics. His starting point in politics was the issue concerning the authorities' confiscation of petty goods purchased by the students of Cantonment Board College for Girls, Rawalpindi, on return from Landi Kotal visit, which he managed to got released to them through "Jiala Power" of the boys of Rawalpindi Polytechnic students.
4) Bhutto believed that, "Religion is an extremely personal affair of a person" and should be respected, as long as it did not interfere in his own "personal interests". Examples are, his arranging the "Islamic Summit" in Pakistan and declaring Ahmadia community a non-Muslim entity. But, when a joint opposition movement of religious parties threatened his rule, he invited them for a round table conference at Sihala, for talks and kept them confined into several rounds of failed negotiations for a long time. He secretly called them "the old crowd" and had some covert plans to tackle them, which were only thwarted by his single miscalculation which provided a chance for a Military intervention by Zia, purported to be a 90 day's period of "safe custody". It is another story how those 90 days became eleven donkey's years.
Our greatest security risk to date, that is Benazir Bhutto, was also similarly rated and refused entry to this year's "Breakfast Prayers Meeting" of the US President Bush. In retaliation, she made harsh remarks against the US administration during her news conference in America. The Americans are not supposed to ignore that. Perhaps, her careless attitudes in politics, lack of understanding and respect for values of national secrets and other harsh manners are being used by them in the current " Gala of Deals" being brokered, to squeeze-out their own more convenient and productive Deals.
We need to examine oblique and torturous moves being made by Benazir Bhutto to gain entry into our politics and play with our destiny for the third time and watch our steps carefully, to avoid falling into the trap of "Coupocracy", for yet another time.
M.Saeed, Pakistan
CANCEROUS LEADERSHIP IN THE ISLAMIC WORLD.
Due to the current situation of the Muslim word, it is natural that the Ummah is looking for a solution to its problems and dedicates its resources in order to alleviate itself from the catastrophes that are confronting it. In its efforts to solve its problems, it is also natural that the Muslims would realise that Islam is the only solution because it is deeply rooted in the minds of Muslims and embodies our history, language, culture, and sentiments. As a result of such a realisation, Muslims would naturally work to bring Islam back into existence..On Monday 3rd March 1924 (28th Rajab 1342AH), the world woke to the news that Mustafa Kemal in Turkey had officially abolished the Khilafah. That night Abdul-Mejid II, the last Khaleefah of the Muslims, was bundled in to a car with a suitcase of clothes and money and exiled from Turkey, never to return. This is how 1342 years of Islamic rule ended. The following is a historical account of the actions of the colonial powers in first sowing the seeds of disunity amongst Muslims by implanting the idea of nationalism and then finally administering the destruction of the Khilafah state by their treacherous agents... .The 3rd of March is a date that is etched into the history of the Muslim Ummah as one of its darkest days ever. It was on this date in the fateful year of 1924 CE that the last vestige of legitimate Islamic rule was ended. The office of Khilifah was abolished by the treacherous Mustafa Kamal and the Muslim Ummah has since then been plunged in to darkness and humiliation. Thus any trace of the Uthmani Khilafah was extinguished as the 101st Khaleefah of Islam, Abdul Mejid II was exiled from the now secular Republic of Turkey...The Khilafah (Caliphate) is a general leadership over all Muslims in the world. Its responsibility is to implement the laws of the Islam system and convey the Islamic Message to the rest of the world. The Khilafah is also called the Imama as both words have been narrated in many sahih ahadith with the same meaning.
Establishing the Khilafah and appointing a Khaleefah is obligatory on all Muslims in the world, male and female. Performing this duty (fard) is the same as performing any other duty which Allah (SWT) has ordered us, where no complacency is allowed. Indeed the Khilafah is a vital issue for the Muslims...In the end here..what THE CHIEF OF DAJJAAAL SAYS TO THE MUSLIMS..“They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call a "Caliphate" -- where all would be ruled according to their hateful ideology.”
“I'm not going to allow this to happen -- and no future American President can allow it either.”
President Bush..
salaheen Rumi, Pakistan
Politically , Musharraf is a decomposing corpse.
Isolated , disgraced and very close to be abandoned by its chief ally , the all time unreliable and undependable United States of America , Musharraffs plight is no better than the plight of a rapid decomposing corpse. A striking demonstration of Allah's onslaught against those who sell their faith for cheap worldly gains.
He should have resigned the day Iftekhar Chaudary was reinstated instead of shamelessly seeking refuge for survival behind a woman whose greed for power did not make her flinch even for a second to have her own brother brutally murdered and dumped
.She has now smelled blood and will be attempting to go for the kill !
America has blocked his emergency plans. The ongoing fall-out of the Lal Masjid saga and the NWFP and Balochistan unrest and now Iftekhar Chaudary has firmly head-locked him as he was head-locked by Musharraffs cronies by paving the way for Nawaz Sherrif to return .
They plot and Allah plots and the best of the plots are the plots plotted by Allah SWT . Subhan'Allah .
Ahsan Malik, Pakistan
Just Great Comments
I just love the comments what people have written and that is a fact,sad for the country I wish Pakistan to become a better country the Democratic ways and to love each other and not to kill each other,love yourself and you will love others too. dear friends
Akbar Kahn, Romania
The Deal
Its a great shame that two corrupt politicians are trying to get together for their own benefit. Bibi Bhutto wants the power so she can take care of her own and general does not want to give up the uniform because he knows that this shabby matvh is not going to work out and he is afraid that if some one else was the general, he might take over just like Musharaf him self did and put musharaf and bibi Bhutto in jail. Now question arises what to do.
This become the responsiblity of educated people of Pakistan to get out and vote their concious. If public does not think that this combination is going to work then defeat both of them bring in a neutral person. A person who has the qualifications to take Pakistan ahead not back ward to old ages. People of Pakistan need to understand that their future and their kids future is hanging in the middle.With all the violence in Pakistan where they are killing their own you need to have a stern Prime minister who can rule with stick.President in Pakistan is only a rubber stamp nothing more. Who ever gets elected if there are elections needs to revive the education system in Pakistan, get rid of all religious madrasa's where nothing but hate is taught. Blaming United states or United Kingdom is not going to solve Pakistans internal problems. People of Pakistan need to wake up and look at the neighbour India and how successfu lndia is. Indians are well respected in the world because they tolrate .
Vinod, United States of America
uniform
Hon.Gen not leave uniform address untill on job in my openion
muhammad amin, Canada
i want to p.m.of pakistan.B.B
ms.bhoto father was happy to break pakistan because he did not believe in majority of mujib.like father like daughter b.b.will break the rest of the country regardless to become the p.m.of what ever is left of thepoor pakistan.
idris khan, United Kingdom
Deal of BB and Musharaf
Deal between the two is only for their personal interests, not for the people of pakistan, nor for the country. If Musharaf needed to make a deal he should have made a deal with MMA which is a majority party in Balochistan and Frontier provinces. That would have helped Musharaf to bring pease to two restive provinces. Offcourse he has lost his credibility with his previous deal with the MMA.But Musharaf needed to please US and has to fight their "war on Terror "and wants to stay in power. He is makign desperate moves, as we know power corrupts,he can't let the power go now, to stay as general and president.He decided to make a deal with so called moderates, who has still pending corruption cases against her.
To your Questions now.
1) What’s your opinion about deal? Will it work?
It may work for the two individuals and US but not for the the country or the people of Pakistan.
2) Will Benazir be able to tackle the simmering crises in the country?
BB will face same crises as Musharaf plus more because she is rejected twice and she has curruption charges against her would loose credibilty soon.
4) Where will Benazir and Musharraf morally stand after deal as they have hurled serious allegations ranging from corruption to violation of constitution against each other.
I hope not long.soon or later they will blame each others.
) Balochistan and the NWFP the provinces are most violence-hit provinces, where the PPP has no say. How will Benazir tackle the situation there?
BB will not be able to do more than Musharaf in Frontier and Balochistan. She may even bring even more trouble adding 3rd province Sindh to secterian and political violence...with MQM.
sk, Pakistan
Pervez Musharraf Written Off by Bush regime. July 25, 2007. Part I.
My advice for Pervez Musharraf was to use the same sentence when talking to Bush regime and British Empire Leaders and trust me this is the easiest way of making Americans understand the true sentiment. The words were quite often used by Bush and other politicians on compaign trail without knowing their microphones are still on. This is also reported that Bush is the most foul mouthed US President off the camara and microphone. Also Paktribune note and understand that I am doing you favor by posting reponse to your questions not the other way around. This is very short edited version of my original Part I.
There are plenty of posts related to Pervez Musharraf and Pakistan since Lal Masjid operation because the situation is becoming more interesting with US threatening to air strike Al Qaida with military operations inside North Frontier Region. The other reason is the news from Iraq and Afghanistan are what we are watching and reading from last five years. Bomb explosions, sectarian violence, blowing up the US military Humvee. Bush criminal invasion has deprived Iraqis all sort of happiness joy peace stability that they even can't celebrate the victory of their soccer team wihout getting blown up by bombs and this latest bombing was very sad to watch. Afghanistan remains unstable violence place after five years of US occupation. The situation which is developing with Pakistan is very interesting and dangerous for US troops in Afghanistan which will prove to be disaster again, the stupidity of Bush policy backed up by war mongers politicians like McCain Giuliani Romney ofcourse with the support of Republican Senators and House Representatives including blood thirsty maniac Joe Lieberman. Barak Obama and Hilary Clinton joined Bush madness of invasion.
According to the latest news Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister issued statement that no foreign troops have the right to cross Pakistan border. Pakistan security forces are fully capable of taking action against Islamic Militants in North Frontier Region which they have done in the past and doing so after recent outburst of violence in the region. Pervez Musharraf has also pointed out that Pakistan has lost more soldiers than US fighting “war on terror”. He is speaking the truth when compared with US deaths in Afghanistan with Pakistan soldiers deaths in North Frontier Province.This statement is very lame which will not help Pervez Musharraf image as strong leader of Pakistan but strengthen the image of being US puppet.
Pervez Musharraf, if wanted to remain in power, must send strong message that “Pakistan Military will defend its sovereignty against any foreign troops crossing its borders”.
This all situation is pointing out that Bush regime has written off Pervez Musharraf and start looking at some other alternatives leader to fight their “war on terror”. The news also reported that Pervez Musharraf is desperately trying to make contact with Bush which is declined by the White House, is another evidence of relations are getting cold.. There aren’t many available option available if Perez Musharraf lose power. The only choice US has is Benazir Bhutto, the daughter of Zulifiqar Ali Bhutto, the guy who played major part breaking East Pakistan to become the Prime Minister of West Pakistan. The problem is that Benazir can’t pursue Bush “war on terror” which is the main reason for Pervez Musharraf unpopularity and could become his downfall. The other option is replacing Pervez Musharraf with some other General will not work because Pakistan Military will lose all its support and respect creating divisions within Military.
Pervez Musharraf committed so stupid mistakes which could have been avoided so easily, extending his unconditional support to Bush without looking at what US do to its friends and allies when they are no good for their agendas, they get murdered recent example is Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf might get murdered by CIA blaming it on Taliban and Al Qaida. The losers will be people of Pakistan with some corrupt politician taking control of government. The economic progress which the country made during Pervez Musharraf rule will be stopped, poverty level will rise, the good news will be corrupt politicians opening new foreign bank accounts, buying properties in Europe and US, happy to be back in business after seven years.
QB, Pakistan
Musharraf has released the "genie" free.
The blockbuster "genie" overlooking the judiciary in the apex court is flexing its mussles. BB and Musharraf are both robber barons. BB is already suffering from the pangs of self exile and uncertainties surrounding her. It is the President, who is kept under the watchful eye of the superior judiciary. The fight for democracy has begun. Many heads are expected to roll.
Sher Mohammad, Pakistan
Two itching Palms!
Is this an agreement between Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum. I scratch your back and you grease my palm.
Khalid Rahim, Canada
BEWITCHINGLY BEAUTIFUL (BB) MARE
I HAVE HAD LOST TWO HOUSES IN CANADA GAMBLING ON HORSE RACING. IF MY NEICE HERE DID'NT STOP ME, I WOULD HAVE LOST THIS ONE I LIVE IN AS WELL.ONE CAN REALLY GET CARRIED AWAY ON THE TRACK. MANY YEARS AGO, THERE USED TO RUN A BB(BEWITCHINGLY BEAUTIFUL) MARE ON TRACKS IN CANADA. I COULD IMAGINE HER BETTERS SING AS SUCH:
"OFF TO TRACK, OFF TO RACE
THE MARE HAD SO PRETTY FACE
AND HER FANS, LIKED HER SO
KISSABLE SHE WOULD RUN AND GO
EACH DAY OF MARE, WAS HER DAY
AS HER FANS WOULD BET TO SAY
WE WILL KISS YOU MOST OF ALL
IF, YOU DEAR, BEAT THEM ALL
SHE WAS HAPPY BB MARE
IN AMAZE HER FANS WOULD STARE
GALLOPING MARE DANCED TO RUN
WAITING FOR THE RACE BE DONE
AND HER LOVERS, THEY WERE SET
ON BB MARE, THEY'LL BET
AND THEY WISHED BB WILL WIN
AS SOON AS RACE WILL BEGIN
BB MARE WAS PRETTY FAST
SURE, SHE WAS BEAUTY BLAST
AFTER THE WIN,SHE HAD FACE
READY FOR KISSES AND EMBRACE
Anwar Mahmood, Canada
In love of Pakistan
WITH SOME POLITICAL EXCITEMENT IN PAK POLITICAL RACES, THERE CAN BE SOME POETIC ENTHRALL AS THE FANS OF THE PARTICIPANTS MIGHT BE SINGING AS SUCH:
FROM NAWAZ SHARIF FANS, LYRICAL PRAISE MAY BE AS SUCH.
"WE WILL LIFT YOU MOST ALOFT
CAUSE YOU ARE CALM AND SOFT"
AND BB FANS MAY BE SINGING AS SUCH:
"WE WILL KISS YOU MOST OF ALL
BEAUTIFUL YOU, BEAT THEM ALL"
AND PAK MILITARY FANS WILL CLAMOUR FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY AND INTEGRITY OF THE COUNTRY. THEY WILL BE SINGING AS SUCH:
"MUSHARRAF AND MILITARY YOU HAVE MIGHT
YOU'RE NEEDED MOST,PLEASE STAY IN SIGHT."
AND ME, WITH MY HEART STILL HAUNTED BY MEMORIES OF THOSE GORGEOUSLY PRETTY PATHANS, KASHMIRI AND OTHER BEAUTIES THAT I SAW WHISTLING AND WAVING GREEN FLAGS IN MURREE LAST YEAR, AM HEADING BACK HOME IN LESS THAN COUPLE WEEKS, AM SINGING BEAUTIFUL LYRICS FROM AMERICA'S ALL TIME BEST SINGER NAT KING COLE, WHO SANG WITH SOFTEST VOICE EVER IN HISTOTORY, THE LYRICS IN THE SONG,"THIS IS ALL I ASK" AS SUCH:
"LEARNING TO ENJOY AT MY LEISURE
ALL THE SIMPLE PLEASURE
AND SO I HAPPILY CAN SEE.
BEAUTIFUL GIRLS, WALK A LITTLE SLOWER
WHEN YOU WALK BY ME
LINGERING SUNST, STAY A LITTLE LONGER
WITH THE LONELY SEA
WANDERING RAINBOWS, LEAVE A BIT OF COLOUR
FOR MY HEART TO OWN
STARS IN THE SKY, MAKE MY WISHES COME TRUE
BEFORE THE NIGHT IS FLOWN
AND LET THE FUN SHOULD PLAY
AS LONG AS THERE IS SONG TO SING
AND I WILL STAY
YOUNGER THAN SPRING.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada
Democracy
What happened to democracy?
Abdul Hamid, Pakistan
Pervez Musharraf is not the problem. It isUS Democracy in Disarray. Conclusion.
Barak Obama the intelligent bright excellent speaker Senator become the typical corrupt politician who want to win Democratic Presidential nomination that he is promising to do what will be disaster for US troops in Afghanistan. He is intelligent and he know that any air strike or crossing Pakistan North Frontier Province will open the new front line which will be more bloody and dangerous than Iraq. Pervez Musharraf will have no other choice other than having direct military confrontation and don’t forget the Islamic Militants who are anxiously waiting for US troops to cross borders. These Islamic Militants will be very happy if Barak Obama do this stupid mistake.
Hilary Clinton has the same exactly the same opinion as Barak Obama and Bush on attacking Pakistan for their America favorite “war on terror”.
There are plenty of Democrats and Republicans hopeful for 2008 Presidential race but unfortunately they all are typical corrupt bunch of politicians. Hilary Clinton will not talk to Cuban leaders because she did not like the form of government, Hilary Clinton will not talk to Hugo Chavez because he speaks against the wrong policies of US government, Hilary Clinton will not talk to Syria because she don’t want to offend Israel (in US you can criticize God, make fun of Jesus but are not to speak a bad word about Israel aggressive policies. Hilary Clinton might be feeling left behind on US security with Barak Obama stance on Pakistan so she might come up with similar policy.
John McCain is very phony character who doesn’t look real, always have the feeling that whatever he is saying is for the camera and the voters. Giuliani is not a honest person another corrupt politician favor wars. Romney is trying to be in favor of both sides of all issues.
The only Presidential candidate who is honest speaking truth a real person is Dennis Kucinich. Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate who will pursue diplomacy instead of aggressive invasion and this is the only policy which will decrease “terrorism”. Barak Obama policy will result in increase terrorism, give more popularity to Al Qaida and Osama Bin Laden. He actually is Naive not ready for the job of President of USA.
Just watched Wolf Blitzer Situation Room and he is very much excited and enthusiastic on US Military action against Pakistan like he was for Iraq invasion.
The Presidential hopefuls for 2008 are so stupid that they don't know that it is their policies are resulting in escalation of terrorism. The only way to eliminate terrorism will be when the US leadership ready to listen and change their policies of aggression and oppression in the name of "DEMOCRACY".
QB, Pakistan
Pervez Musharraf Written Off by Bush Regime. July 25, 2007. Part II
Iraq situation is as very bad for US occupation after four years with no hope of any improvements in near future. Bush regime blame their failures on Syria, Iran and now Saudi Arabia for their failed policy of invasion and Pakistan for Afghanistan failure. It is really hard to believe that the whole Bush regime consists of idiots who did not know the consequences of Iraq and Afghanistan invasion. The majority of people know that Bush is an idiot brain damage due to drug and alcohol abuse in his earlier life but it is really hard to believe that his whole cabinet did not analyze the consequences of removing Saddam Hussein and Afghanistan invasion. What is happening in Iraq and Afghanistan is exactly according to my analysis before war. The majority of my American friends were happy full of pride with easy victory when Taliban disappeared leaving Kabul open for Northern Alliance and US troops. When I told them that this is not victory and end of war but it is just beginning of war they all looked at me like someone complete crazy. The Americans friends were quick to celebrate the Iraq victory as well when they captured Baghdad without any resistance and again when I told them that this is just the beginning of long war they thought I have completely lost my mind.
Bush job approval rating that time was in high seventies and the war support was equally high over seventy percent. It took some months for Iraqi resistance to organize and start their fighting against US occupation which were called by Bush, Dick and Rumsfeld as dead enders, terrorists, Saddam Hussein Bathists, people who hate freedom and democracy and majority of Americans believed and supported government.
Afghanistan went into background with main stream media focus on Iraq. The other reason for Afghanistan going into background was that Taliban did not immediately get organized which according to me was because they were not in hurry and don’t wanted to start their resistance without complete planning and organization. It look like they have done their home work and gaining strength in Afghanistan with support from North Western Frontier Province. Bush blame this on Pakistan and Pervez Musharraf, putting pressure on his government “to do more” in his “war on terror” which is necessary for the security of US. Bush retard do not realize that Pervez Musharraf can’t do anything more what he has already done without risking the security of his own country. Pervez Musharraf come in power with very popular public support and he has lost all his support fighting Bush “war on terror” bombing and killing civilians in North WesternFrontier Province. Pervez Musharraf meeting with yesterday with Benazir Bhutto in Dubai look like Bush regime new strategy to bring her back as Prime Minister and announce new elections date to calm down public anger and opposition against government. Benazir Bhutto very corrupt politician love power and will do anything to keep her in power even if she had to kill hundreds of thousands people. The only problem is that she can’t aggressively pursue Bush policies with majority of public opposition, growing anti Military sentiments in Pakistan. Pakistan Military will not agree to take any Military action for the fear of losing its respect and credibility. Bush regime will have hard time understanding this and they might make one more stupid mistake of crossing Pakistan border which will open new front for US troops.
Iraq failures are blamed on Iran, Syria and now Saudi Arabia. Bush stupid invasion and overthrowing Saddam Hussein government has changed power in favor of Iran which Sunni Arab government see as growing threat for for their governments. Iran has Syrian Shiite government support and in Lebanon have the backing of Hezbollah. Iraq puppet Nuri Al Maliki government has close relations with Iranian which will further strengthen after US troops withdrawal. Saudi Royal family fear that Iran Iraq might start revolution movement in their country, so they actually are trying to protect their own interests with financing Iraqi Sunni Resistance to fight against Nuri Al Maliki Shiite government.
The end game is near which will not be pretty for US and its superpower image.
It is in the best interest of Pakistan Pervez Musharraf tell his American allies to shut up and adopt the policy of reconciliation in NWFP. Democratic Congress has already tied Pakistan financial aid to progress with "war on terror" results which means they want to see plenty of dead bodies for their money. Hilary Clinton, Barak Obama if get elected will as as disastrous as Bush who will not hesitate to cross into Pakistan territory just to prove that Democrats are as tough as Republican fighting the Islamic "terrorists".
QB, Pakistan
people concern
it is understood by reading the subject,that prior interst of bibi is to get rid of the cases and defreaze her accounts and surely this is personal interest merely. musharraf wants to get elected in uniform forget about the intrest of people this is a game and both of them are not even thinking of poor man in the country very shamfull situation.
khalilawan, United States of America
It is about compromise deal
President Musharraf and BB are buttressing each other to pacify the explosive situation the country is in right now.This explosive situation is not the intentional making of Musharraf nor BB nor Nawaz Sharif nor any body else.
The problems are due to the most important geo strategy of Pakistan and the governance stress this geo strategy brings with it. Already Pakistan's governance is described as the toughest job on earth.
You have all the mighty nations contesting their future dominence,energy security,future fate of mankind and the positioning for influence in their political interests.
Pakistan appears to be the chess board for all to play the game of global domunence, whereas Paks most marshal tribal and NWFP people have fiercely maintained their independence from foreign influence for thousands of years.Even Alexander the Great had said about the tribals as such:
"THIS IS THE TOUGHEST NUT THAT HE JUST COULD'NT CRACK"
AFTER THAT CHENGEZ, TAMERLANE, THE BRITISH AND THE RUSSIANS WENT THROUGH SIMILAR FATE AT THE HANDS OF PASHTOONS"
THESE PEOPLE MADE AMERICA THE SOLE SUPER POWERS AND WERE AMERICA'S ALLIES ONCE.
PAKISTAN HAS LOST OVER 800 MILITARY MEN JUST TO ONLY PACIFY THE PEOPLE.
FRANKLY SPEAKING, PAKISTAN HAS BEEN TORN BY THE FORCES OF THE MIGHTIEST AND THE INTERNALLY INTERPOSING FIERCE PEOPLE OF TRIBALS AND NWFP TO THE EXTENT THAT THE NATION'S INTEGRITY APPEARS TO BE AT STAKE IF THINGS ARE LET GO WITHOUT PACIFICATION AND BUTTRESSING BETWEEN THE MIGHTY FRIENDS LIKE US-NATO AND OUR INTERNAL FIERCEST MARSHAL RACES, WHO WOULD SHUN ANY EXTERNAL INTERACTIONS THAT ARE LATELY BECOMING SERIOUSLY BLOODY.
DICK CHENNY'S STATEMENT LAST NIGHT ABOUT NOT PUSHING THE PAKS TOO HARD BY CONSTRAINING AND CONSTRICTING ANY TEMPT OF CROSS BORDER CHASE. SUCH STATEMENT FROM A HAWK LIKE DICK CHENNY WILL CONTRIBUTE MUCH TOWARDS PEACE AND INTEGRITY OF PAKISTAN.
PEACE IN PAKISTAN AND INTEGRITY OF THE NATION ARE VERY VITAL NOT ONLY FOR THE SURVIVAL OF PAKISTAN, BUT ALSO FOR THE COUNTRIES AROUND AND FOR GLOBAL POWERS WHO HAVE IMPORTANT STAKES IN THEIR OWN SURVIVAL, ENERGY SECURITY AND THEIR VERY PRESENCE IN THE WORLD'S MOST DESIRED AND CONTESTED SPOT THAT IS PAKISTAN.ANY HURTING OF PAKISTAN, INTENTIONAL OR ACCIDENTAL WILL HAVE VERY DISASTROUS EFFECTS ON THE ENTIRE WORLD.DICK CHENNY'S STATEMENT LAST NIGHT IS IN EFFECT CONFIRMAITION OF US REALIZING THAT THINGS IN AND AROUND PAKISTAN ARE BEYOND THE GRIP AND GRAPS OF PAKS IF THE COUNTRY IS PUSHED TOO HARD.
ACTUALLY , THERE IS TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CREDIT GOING TOWARDS PAK MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF THAT THEY HAVE KEPT THE COUNTRY RELATIVELY PACIFIED COMPARED TO THE VERY EXPLOSIVE GEO STRATEGY OF THE COUNTRY.
CHARTER OF DEMOCRACY WAS LIKE CAKE WALKING. BUT THE EXPLOSIVE GEO STRATEGY DEMANDS NAWAZ AND BB ALSO LENDING HELPING HANDS TO PAK MILITARY AND MUSHARRAF WHILE THEY TRY TO PACIFY THE TRIBALS AND OTHER MARSHAL PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN.
HERE ARE MY ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS:
1)What’s your opinion about deal? Will it work?
Answer: I would call it a compromised buttressing under the most stressed geo strategy of the country. Nawaz and BB can help now while all political contestants peacefully work on building the depth of public support for the day of decisive balloting that is coming for the people of Pakistan to decide as to who they want to govern the nation under peoples ballot proven wishes in the forth coming elections.
2)Will Benazir be able to tackle the simmering crises in the country?
Answer:
Nawaz Sharif and BB are the only politicians who had depth of public support.Nawaz is a cool minded person and he had the latest ballot proven depth of public support. Whoever is chosen by the Pak people will have the challenge of pacifying the circumstances of tough days as they will have to break the cycle of tough circumstances as the cycle right now is:
"When tough gets going, the going gets tough and when going gets tough, the tough gets going."
And compromised kindness to people and the friendly attitude with US-NATO at the same time will be the required wisdome.
3)Is America pressurizing Musharraf and Benazir fordeal? If yes why?
Answer:Pressure or no pressure,the deal is the need given the very tough geo strategy of Pakistan.
4)Where will Benazir and Musharraf morally standafter deal as they have hurled serious allegationsranging from corruption to violation of constitutionagainst each other. ?
Answer:
You cannot stay rigid and non flexamatic when the nation is sandwiched by dangers due to all powers finding ways to influence the world through Pak geo strategy.Every body has to give and take and forgive for nation's sake.I think they can make amends and do not repeat the past mistakes.
5) Balochistan and the NWFP the provinces are mostviolence-hit provinces, where the PPP has no say. Howwill Benazir tackle the situation there?
Answer:
I think BB and Nawaz will have to come to terms with religious parties like MMA.
Anwar Mahmood, Canada
Musharraf and BB deal
Musharraf had made a deal with MMA and got vote to be president in uniform. Now it is turn of BB. She may be a great politician but let us wait and see politics of Musharraf.
Muhammad Riaz
Muhammad Riaz, Pakistan
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